Wednesday, October 18, 2006

The Root of All Evil?


Is Religion the root of all evil? Prof Richard Dawkins certainly thinks so. Reuters recently ran a report on how a few 'atheist' non fiction books were making the New York Times bestsellers list. No surprises for me there. If Da Vinci Code was any indication, a cocktail of religion and controversy certainly make a best selling recipe!
So who is Prof Dawkins? Well, basically he's this atheist Professor of Ethology (study of animal behaviour) at Oxford University. He's considered to be quite a big shot in his area of expertise which is centered around evolution.

If you wanna read more about him (he is quite an interesting and impressive character) just Wikify him here

So, anyways this Prof Dawkins has written a book called "The God Delusion". I guess the title says it all. Having read a few excerpts which I found quite fascinating, and boosted by my recent discovery that Da Vinci Code was available online, I tried to download some pdf version off Limewire or Ares, but have had no luck so far :( I might actually consider spending about 3000 bucks buying it off Amazon or something, considering the fact that its pretty likely to get banned in Sri Lanka in the near future! Dawkins take on religion is summarised in his introduction;

"Religion ... has certain ideas at the heart of it which we call sacred or holy or whatever. What it means is, 'Here is an idea or a notion that you're not allowed to say anything bad about; you're just not. Why not? - because you're not. If someone votes for a party that you don't agree with, you're free to argue about it as much as you like; everybody will have an argument but nobody feels aggrieved by it. ... But on the other hand, if somebody says 'I mustn't move a light switch on a Saturday', you say 'I respect that.'"

During my teens I went through this internal battle on the atheist/theist argument. There was a time I firmly believed in the presence of God, and then a period where I strongly believed it was highly unlikely that God really existed. As I went through this struggle, I decided to seek answers in the bible. At the time, most things in the bible just didn't make any sense. Most of Genesis was totally contradictory to Science. For example, while its been scientifically proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the earth is a few billion years old, the bible only accounts for a 'split second' of about 5,000 years. The creation of the earth and and its living creatures including man took a matter of 7 days, while science clearly establishes that man came along much, much later. The thing that drew me towards the presence of God was intelligent design. I felt it was not possible for something as advanced as the human being to have evolved on its own. It didn't seem to make sense that complex organs such as an eye could just evolve due to natural selection. The other thing that intrigued me, which didn't seem to fit in with the whole evolution thingy was 'Sex'. I don't mean sex as in sexual reproduction, but sex as in sexual intercourse. Did the act of sexual intercourse evolve? Did it happen in stages? Then why has it become more complex? Can't we just exchange genetic material by just kissing or something? When you think about it, sexual intercourse is a pretty complicated task at all levels. Just go through the Karma Sutra or some other sex manual to check out the diversity and complexity. And that's for us "intelligent" human beings. Take dogs for example. Horny male dogs going through puberty or whatever tend to hump anything humpable. I supposed they are genetically programmed to do this. Its hard enough training a dog to sit or give out its paw, and yet something that requires more skill and co-rdination seems to be so effortless! But why? Wouldn't it have been much easier to just deposit your genetic load without all the effort? Anyways these were some of the battles raging through my mind. Of course new devlopments in various branches of science including molecular biology and phylogenetics(just discovered that word;) certainly give evolution a pretty sound backing. I guess even to this day I am yet to completely resolve this internal battle. Somehow I doubt I ever will. Anyways reading through some of Dawkins writings took me back to those days and thoughts. The battle between atheism and theism will never end in my lifetime. Maybe someday the "truth" will be revealed and the battle will cease. I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen in my lifetime though. Maybe I'm wrong, but for now, the battle rages on, with great interest one might add just looking at the current NY bestsellers list and of course the famous Da Vinci Code. I personally feel that religion should be open to reasoning nad questioning. While it is certainly acceptable that certain things cannot be scientifically proven, I don't believe in blind following either. Dawkins suggests that religion, which can lead to religious extremism is responsible for a great deal of conflict in the world. Anyways he does a much better job of getting his points across than me, so here are some of those excerpts from 'The God Delusion' and some very very interesting interviews with the man himself, courtesy of YouTube. SL users will as usual have to pause the clips and wait for them to download before watching them. Dawkins has also done a documentary called "The root of all Evil" which is available on both YouTube and Google video. It certainly makes some very interesting viewing and is worth the wait (to download of course). Please do post your comments on this one. I Would love to hear the opinions of fellow SL bloggers:)


THE GOD DELUSION
by Richard Dawkins

FROM CHAPTER 7: The "Good" Book and the changing moral Zeitgeist

There are two ways in which scripture might be a source of morals or rules for living. One is by direct instruction, for example through the Ten Commandments, which are the subject of such bitter contention in the culture wars of America's boondocks. The other is by example: God, or some other biblical character, might serve as - to use the contemporary jargon - a role model. Both scriptural routes, if followed through religiously (the adverb is used in its metaphoric sense but with an eye to its origin), encourage a system of morals which any civilized modern person, whether religious or not, would find - I can put it no more gently - obnoxious.

To be fair, much of the Bible is not systematically evil but just plain weird, as you would expect of a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and 'improved' by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries. This may explain some of the sheer strangeness of the Bible. But unfortunately it is this same weird volume that religious zealots hold up to us as the inerrant source of our morals and rules for living. Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it, as Bishop John Shelby Spong, in The Sins of Scripture, rightly observed. Bishop Spong, by the way, is a nice example of a liberal bishop whose beliefs are so advanced as to be almost unrecognizable to the majority of those who call themselves Christians. A British counterpart is Richard Holloway, recently retired as Bishop of Edinburgh. Bishop Holloway even describes himself as a 'recovering Christian'. I had a public discussion with him in Edinburgh, which was one of the most stimulating and interesting encounters I have had.

THE OLD TESTAMENT

Begin in Genesis with the well-loved story of Noah, derived from the Babylonian myth of Uta-Napisthim and known from the older mythologies of several cultures. The legend of the animals going into the ark two by two is charming, but the moral of the story of Noah is appalling. God took a dim view of humans, so he (with the exception of one family) drowned the lot of them including children and also, for good measure, the rest of the (presumably blameless) animals as well.

Of course, irritated theologians will protest that we don't take the book of Genesis literally any more. But that is my whole point! We pick and choose which bits of scripture to believe, which bits to write off as symbols or allegories. Such picking and choosing is a matter of personal decision, just as much, or as little, as the atheist's decision to follow this moral precept or that was a personal decision, without an absolute foundation. If one of these is 'morality flying by the seat of its pants', so is the other. In any case, despite the good intentions of the sophisticated theologian, a frighteningly large number of people still do take their scriptures, including the story of Noah, literally. According to Gallup, they include approximately 50 per cent of the US electorate. Also, no doubt, many of those Asian holy men who blamed the 2004 tsunami not on a plate tectonic shift but on human sins, ranging from drinking and dancing in bars to breaking some footling sabbath rule. Steeped in the story of Noah, and ignorant of all except biblical learning, who can blame them? Their whole education has led them to view natural disasters as bound up with human affairs, paybacks for human misdemeanours rather than anything so impersonal as plate tectonics. By the way, what presumptuous egocentricity to believe that earth-shaking events, on the scale at which a god (or a tectonic plate) might operate, must always have a human connection. Why should a divine being, with creation and eternity on his mind, care a fig for petty human malefactions? We humans give ourselves such airs, even aggrandizing our poky little 'sins' to the level of cosmic significance!

When I interviewed for television the Reverend Michael Bray, a prominent American anti-abortion activist, I asked him why evangelical Christians were so obsessed with private sexual inclinations such as homosexuality, which didn't interfere with anybody else's life. His reply invoked something like self-defence. Innocent citizens are at risk of becoming collateral damage when God chooses to strike a town with a natural disaster because it houses sinners. In 2005, the fine city of New Orleans was catastrophically flooded in the aftermath of a hurricane, Katrina. The Reverend Pat Robertson, one of America's best-known televangelists and a former presidential candidate, was reported as blaming the hurricane on a lesbian comedian who happened to live in New Orleans.* You'd think an omnipotent God would adopt a slightly more targeted approach to zapping sinners: a judicious heart attack, perhaps, rather than the wholesale destruction of an entire city just because it happened to be the domicile of one lesbian comedian.

In November 2005, the citizens of Dover, Pennsylvania voted off their local school board the entire slate of fundamentalists who had brought the town notoriety, not to say ridicule, by attempting to enforce the teaching of 'intelligent design'. When Pat Robertson heard that the fundamentalists had been democratically defeated at the ballot, he offered a stern warning to Dover:

I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover, if there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God. You just rejected him from your city, and don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin, and I'm not saying they will. But if they do, just remember you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, then don't ask for his help, because he might not be there.

Pat Robertson would be harmless comedy, were he less typical of those who today hold power and influence in the United States. In the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, the Noah equivalent, chosen to be spared with his family because he was uniquely righteous, was Abraham's nephew Lot. Two male angels were sent to Sodom to warn Lot to leave the city before the brimstone arrived. Lot hospitably welcomed the angels into his house, whereupon all the men of Sodom gathered around and demanded that Lot should hand the angels over so that they could (what else?) sodomize them: 'Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them' (Genesis 19: 5).

Yes, 'know' has the Authorized Version's usual euphemistic meaning, which is very funny in the context. Lot's gallantry in refusing the demand suggests that God might have been onto something when he singled him out as the only good man in Sodom. But Lot's halo is tarnished by the terms of his refusal: 'I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof' (Genesis 19: 7-8).

Whatever else this strange story might mean, it surely tells us something about the respect accorded to women in this intensely religious culture. As it happened, Lot's bargaining away of his daughters' virginity proved unnecessary, for the angels succeeded in repelling the marauders by miraculously striking them blind. They then warned Lot to decamp immediately with his family and his animals, because the city was about to be destroyed. The whole household escaped, with the exception of Lot's unfortunate wife, whom the Lord turned into a pillar of salt because she committed the offence - comparatively mild, one might have thought - of looking over her shoulder at the fireworks display.

Lot's two daughters make a brief reappearance in the story. After their mother was turned into a pillar of salt, they lived with their father in a cave up a mountain. Starved of male company, they decided to make their father drunk and copulate with him. Lot was beyond noticing when his elder daughter arrived in his bed or when she left, but he was not too drunk to impregnate her. The next night the two daughters agreed it was the younger one's turn. Again Lot was too drunk to notice, and he impregnated her too (Genesis 19: 31-6). If this dysfunctional family was the best Sodom had to offer by way of morals, some might begin to feel a certain sympathy with God and his judicial brimstone.

*It is unclear whether the story... is true. Whether true or not, it is widely believed, no doubt because it is entirely typical of utterances by evangelical clergy, including Robertson, on disasters such as Katrina. ... The website that says the Katrina story is untrue... also quotes Robertson as saying, of an earlier Gay Pride march in Orlando, Florida, 'I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you.'


FROM CHAPTER EIGHT: What's wrong with religion? Why be so hostile?

In July 2005, London was the victim of a concerted suicide bomb attack: three bombs in the subway and one in a bus. Not as bad as the 2001 attack on the World Trade Center, and certainly not as unexpected (indeed, London had been braced for just such an event ever since Blair volunteered us as unwilling side-kicks in Bush's invasion of Iraq), nevertheless the London explosions horrified Britain. The newspapers were filled with agonized appraisals of what drove four young men to blow themselves up and take a lot of innocent people with them. The murderers were British citizens, cricket-loving, well-mannered, just the sort of young men whose company one might have enjoyed.

Why did these cricket-loving young men do it? Unlike their Palestinian counterparts, or their kamikaze counterparts in Japan, or their Tamil Tiger counterparts in Sri Lanka, these human bombs had no expectation that their bereaved families would be lionized, looked after or supported on martyrs' pensions. On the contrary, their relatives in some cases had to go into hiding. One of the men wantonly widowed his pregnant wife and orphaned his toddler. The action of these four young men has been nothing short of a disaster not just for themselves and their victims, but for their families and for the whole Muslim community in Britain, which now faces a backlash. Only religious faith is a strong enough force to motivate such utter madness in otherwise sane and decent people. Once again, Sam Harris put the point with percipient bluntness, taking the example of the Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden (who had nothing to do with the London bombings, by the way). Why would anyone want to destroy the World Trade Center and everybody in it? To call bin Laden 'evil' is to evade our responsibility to give a proper answer to such an important question.

The answer to this question is obvious - if only because it has been patiently articulated ad nauseam by bin Laden himself. The answer is that men like bin Laden actually believe what they say they believe. They believe in the literal truth of the Koran. Why did nineteen well-educated middle-class men trade their lives in this world for the privilege of killing thousands of our neighbors? Because they believed that they would go straight to paradise for doing so. It is rare to find the behavior of humans so fully and satisfactorily explained. Why have we been so reluctant to accept this explanation?"

The respected journalist Muriel Gray, writing in the (Glasgow) Herald on 24 July 2005, made a similar point, in this case with reference to the London bombings.

Everyone is being blamed, from the obvious villainous duo of George W. Bush and Tony Blair, to the inaction of Muslim 'communities'. But it has never been clearer that there is only one place to lay the blame and it has ever been thus. The cause of all this misery, mayhem, violence, terror and ignorance is of course religion itself, and if it seems ludicrous to have to state such an obvious reality, the fact is that the government and the media are doing a pretty good job of pretending that it isn't so.

Our Western politicians avoid mentioning the R word (religion), and instead characterize their battle as a war against 'terror', as though terror were a kind of spirit or force, with a will and a mind of its own. Or they characterize terrorists as motivated by pure 'evil'. But they are not motivated by evil. However misguided we may think them, they are motivated, like the Christian murderers of abortion doctors, by what they perceive to be righteousness, faithfully pursuing what their religion tells them. They are not psychotic; they are religious idealists who, by their own lights, are rational. They perceive their acts to be good, not because of some warped personal idiosyncrasy, and not because they have been possessed by Satan, but because they have been brought up, from the cradle, to have total and unquestioning faith.


Richard Dawkin's interview with Newsnight





Richard Dawkin's interview with BBC


6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thats a long post.. BUT interesting..
anyhow (1) I am the root of all evil.. (2) I believe that religion has some advice in it. Not the meaningless ones.. the meaninfgul advice.

Hence I believe that religion should not have credits towards a founder or worshipping the founder. Instead a stict following of the advice towards a better life perhaps.

I am a buddhist by heart and I do not go to temple. Yet I make it a point to understand what i read, i don't chant yet i look for translations of the scripts.

All in all I think religions came during a time when people of different civilizations wanted to boast that "MY GOOD IS BETTER THAN YOUR GOD".. eventually after all of them started showing off etc etc.. it was "MY GOD CAN KICK UR GODS ASS" etc etc.. and when the only coincidential natural disasters ended.. THE PETTY HUMAN MIND went in arms to war.. to fight in the name of gods who didn't exist.

Maybe earth was the prototype? With all the bugs and crap in it.. Who knows?

The perfect version probably uses earth as an example of "When shit goes wrong 101" or "The good and the bad are both ugly 1002"

ok ok.. im ranting :D lol :)

~ lo$t $oul ~ said...
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~ lo$t $oul ~ said...

Evil is there no way better of say this is. a real long post, might download it later or perhaps get the book.
spend 3000 on Da vinci code? are u kidding me...?? or are u one of the NO PIRACY POLICY. i'd give you mine if i know which jack took n never returned it. such a lankan fad man.
as for the topic, religion was suppose to make the ape to a man. more dignified, more spiritual, believe in greater than himself. that there is somethin more powerful or greater about him or above him. its when one puts a image n ego to that believe it and the splitting of faith is where the mayhem starts. one epic movie i love about religion is KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. i love SALAUDIN's character. can i frame him as a muslim who wanted to take over jerusalem or just a man who lead thousands who believed in another god to take back the land which they lived in. most controversial of all religion is that of the musim n catholics(being a ROMAN CATHOLIC) i strongly believe that there is something as GOD a higher power. until u prove to me in real and make the big bang theory happen, ys i wud have my believe in them. sayin that. i don believe in going to church, just another place to view the high fashion statememnt of men n woman to show off clothes accessories, cars n wht not. im not dispersing the charity and everything else that happens but do not stand hypocrisy in the name of god(believe). they say its about being humble n simple. HUMBLE n SIMPLE up there sun doesnt shine!! following a religion has just become like a fashion statement of tht sense.

Fowleri said...

Hey Lost soul, interesting thoughts. I was reffering to the 3000 bucks for "the God delusions" not Da Vinci code. Da Vinci code is freely available for download off Ares. And being a Sri Lankan, and being broke of course I stand for Piracy!

Ian Selvarajah said...

Interesting post...from the quick skim through Dawkins' text, I get the impression he's a little hostile. I'm not a fan of the agressive and/or condescending approach from either side of the fence. :)

There are many different views these days about religion / beliefs, etc. My view are (more or less) explained here: link

I read an interesting book called "A Skeptic's Search for God" a few months ago. More recently, someone [on my blog] suggested I read "God's Debris" by Scott Adams. That was another VERY interesting read. I don't think I could ever doubt the existence of God (or some sort of higher power) to be honest...

BTW, where do you guys get e-books!? I was hoping to download "The Religion War" (or something) which is the 2nd part of God's Debris! :)

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